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Dicko
Here is my problem

I have a Billion 7500 which I transmit to my neighbours using a yargi antenna. I have used a minitar AP to connect his desktop PC to the WLAN in station infrastructure mode. He also has a laptop with a G card. He can surf using this card when he is in his study which has the yargi pointed at it but no were else in the house, as the other aerial on my Billion is not strong enough to get across to his house.

Can I get the mintar to retransmit the WLAN into his house and put a wireless card in his desktop so that he has wireless access around his house through the minitar to his laptop, which links back to my billion 7500, and how do I do it ie what mode to put the minitar in etc
Thanks
Dicko
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serialmonkey
Hi there,

Unfortunatly as I stated on Whirlpool the 7500G doesn't support WDS mode and hence you will need to have an AP on the 7500G side that can terminate the WDS bridge for you - i.e. another MNWAPB.

S.
Dicko
Thanks for that, just tracking down my other mintar and will give it a go.

Can you confirm I should set it up one my pc using a different ESSID and its own IP and put it in WDS mode, then plug it into the ethernet connection of the 7500 and stick it in the window, and then configure the other WAP across the road in WDS on the same ESSID with its own IP address.

Both IPs should be in the same range as the billion as well ie 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.101 as the billion is set to 192.168.1.254
serialmonkey
Absolutly correct. Something like

CODE
7500 ------------- MNWAPB ..................... MNWAPB ............ wlan client
(1.254)            (1.100)                      (1.101)   ---------- wired client
(ssid=fred)        (ssid=bob)                   (ssid=bob)
(chn=11)           (chn=3)                      (chn=3)
(mode=ap)          (mode=wds)                   (mode=wds)

--- wired
... wireless


Make sure you upgrade both MNWAPB's to the latest firmware for hassle free WDS :-)

S.
Dicko
I have setup the network and can get the laptop to surf using the minitar that is connected to the ethernet on the ADSL modem but when I then go across the road and setup their AP to bridge I cant get any access to the net.

The laptop sees the signal as strong but cant get any access and the computer that is linked to the AP with a lan cable can not access the net either when I switch it to WDC mode

I know the AP in my house is transmitting as the laptop can connect at my house and when I search for WAP on their stand alone using the AP it can see the Billion and the WAP networks ie Bob and Bob 2, which it can connect to and access the net, email etc but as soon as I go to the WDC mode on their AP it all goes to !@#$, so I have to reconfigure so at least their stand alone can access the net

I dont understand why the AP in their house will not access the net, and why the standalone losses the net etc when I go to WDC mode as I was under the impression from your previous statements that both the standalone would still be able to surf etc and the laptop would be able to surf using the WDC side
serialmonkey
Hi,

Please ensure that when you attempt the bridge that

1. Both AP's are in WDS mode
2. Both AP's have the opposite AP's MAC address listed in the AP list on the Wireless Settings page
3. Both AP's have the same ESSID, channel and security settings.

Once you have done this are you able to ping from the machine wireless to the over-the-road MNWAPB to the closest MNWAPB ? What about pinging to the AP at your place ?

Do you have MAC-filtering enabled anywhere ?

S
Dicko
Yes have it enabled on the billion, but have put the laptop and minitars mac address into it.

With the mac address I will have to put the mac address for the neighbours AP, laptop and desktop into the ap at my house as well as the thier laptop, pc and the ap at my house into theirs, is that correct.

And is that on the wireless page of the ap setup

Thanks for your help by the way
serialmonkey
Nope, on the wireless setup page you just enter the MAC addresses for the MNWAPB's particpating in the WDS bridge.

Since you only have 2 MNWAPB's you need to have just a single entry in each configuration page which is the MAC of the opposite MNWAPB. The MAC of a MNWAPB can be found on the System Status page.

S.
Dicko
I am having some success, I have the laptop up and running via a wifi card but still can not get the pc up from the lan port on the AP

Any ideas. As I have posted before I can get the pc up in infra mode with an ethernet cable but when I go to wdc mode, I loose the lan connection
serialmonkey
Even with all the AP's involved do you still have the gateway for your clients set to be the router on the far side ? You should never have your clients gateway's set to a MNWAPB's IP - did you disable the DHCP server in the MNWAPB's ?

S.
Dicko
I will check when I get home from work and ensure both APs do not have DHCP turned on

I noticed that my Billion was going spastic at one point last night and had to reset it


Dicko
Dicko
I have checked both APs and they have DHCP turned off. The desktop pcs card is set to auto assign but as soon as I turn it on nothing. I can see the network card trying but nothing comes back.

I noticed before that it slowed the laptop down also when trying to surf as if there was a conflict so dont have any idea why the desktop can not get access to the net in the WDC mode
serialmonkey
Sounds like DHCP failing then, do you definatly have both AP's upgraded to the latest firmware ? 2.53 ?

S.
Dicko
Thats the one thing I have not checked, but will check that tommorow
serialmonkey
It's a good thing to check - there were problems with DHCP relaying over WDS in older firmwares. 2.53 definatly resolves them (in fact, I think 2.49 did as well - but it's worth getting the latest on both units)

S.
Dicko
Have upgraded both units to 2.53 but still no luck with the desktop PC. Laptop is working although sometimes when they start it up it detects the network on their ap but they can not get access to the net. I have disabled then enabled the network card and that seems to work but it seems strange


Any other ideas on the desktop as it connects into the lan connection on their AP, sees the network between it and the AP but gets no response when u try and send email or bring up a we page
serialmonkey
If you can see the far LAN but can't access the Internet it nearly has to be a gateway issue on that client - are you sure that PC has it's default gateway set correctly ?

S.
Dicko
I have left in the obtain an IP address automatically etc as that is what is set up on the laptop and on the three pc's setup in my house.

Should I be giving it its own address as the address of the billion is
192.168.1.254

For me to look at the AP I have to change the IP address of the lan card to 192.168.1.31 on either the laptop or the pc but have to change the laptop back to auto assign for it to access the net and email etc

Dicko
serialmonkey
You wouldn't have to change back and forward if when you set that static IP you set your gateway and DNS addresses to the routers IP address.

I get a feeling im missing something in the way you have your network all plugged in - might be worth throwing together a little ascii picture here to make sure im not missing something.

S.
Dicko
I have now got the laptop going but still can not connect the desktop

Do you think assigning each network card its own ip address, dns etc could fix the problem as currently both the laptop and the desktop are set to let the dhcp server assign it.

I have setup two desktops in my house with individual ips etc and and they seem to connect to the net through the billion with no problems so I am supposing that this ip issue may be a problem with the desktop

I have now obtained a static ip address for my modem as well

Any thoughts on this
Dicko
I have assigned settings to each ie laptop and desktop. Laptop can still conect but cant get the desktop on

any ideas
serialmonkey
Still think I need a picture to fully understand your setup - it seems like a basic gateway issue or a rough DHCP server giving out the wrong details.

S.
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