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gullalbany
Can i have an internet gateway through a client AP or do i have to have the internet gateway at the server.
I have 1 access point (repeater) as a server in "AP" mode.
I have two clients pointing to the server set up as "Station-Infrastructure".

i can recieve internet from internet gateway on server, however, if i try to set up gateway on client, there is no internet coming through.

the network is fine, just the internet that wont come through.

is there a setting on my router or should i have the clients in different modes. Is there anything that i can do to get the net coming through from a client.

please help.
serialmonkey
Hi there,

Im not 100% understanding your description but I'll have a stab anyway :-) Might be best if you draw a picture for us to make sure we fully understand.

The way I understand it you have a router that is sharing your Internet connection. This router and another computer are both plugged into a MNWAPB in AP mode. You have 2 more computers each plugged into their own MNWAPB - both of them are in Station-Infrastructure mode.

You can access the Internet from the computer that is wired on the router side, but you can't access it from the computers plugged into the MNWAPB's in Station-Infrastructure mode.

Okay, questions

1. Do you have the DHCP servers turned off on all MNWAPB's ?
2. Are you using static IP addresses ? What do you have the gateway IP's set to on the PC's that can't access the Internet ?
3. Are you running the latest firmware's on the MNWAPB's ?

S.
gullalbany
The way I understand it you have a router that is sharing your Internet connection. This router and another computer are both plugged into a MNWAPB in AP mode. You have 2 more computers each plugged into their own MNWAPB - both of them are in Station-Infrastructure mode.

Yes this is correct and the internet works fine.

however, i want to place my router at one of the other 2 stations and take my router away from the one which is in AP mode.

DHCP is disabled and the network is manually configured by a pro, who says he is 100% sure the network is spot on and cant understand why there is no net when we put the router at the other AP in station-infastructure mode.
the gateway ips have been reconfigured for the new AP.

We have the latest firmware on all AP's.

how do i attach a picture?
gullalbany
Current config -
PC with ADSL modem (192.168.0.1) ---->--->---- AP (AP mode) ---->---->--- Repeater antenna (two clients, a&b, are pointing at Repeater) ---->--->--->

a ---->-----> Antenna ---->-----> AP (infastructure mode) ---->--->--- router ------>------>-- PC(DNS & default gateway 192.168.0.1).

b ---->-----> Antenna ---->-----> AP (infastructure mode) ------>------>-- PC(DNS & default gateway 192.168.0.1).

internet sharing & network works fine in above setup.

wanted & tried config -
PC (DNS & default gateway 192.168.0.50) ---->--->---- AP (AP mode) ---->---->--- Repeater antenna (two clients, a&b, are pointing at Repeater) ---->--->--->

a ---->-----> Antenna ---->-----> AP (infastructure mode) ---->--->--- ADSL router 192.168.0.50 ------>------>-- PC(DNS & default gateway 192.168.0.50).

b ---->-----> Antenna ---->-----> AP (infastructure mode) ------>------>-- PC(DNS & default gateway 192.168.0.50).

network is working but internet sharing is not.
it is not the router because we have tried a nettcom also. I am pretty sure it has something to do with the modes of the access points. all security is disabled. dhcp is disabled.

please help me set this up so i can get it working
Jebz
QUOTE (gullalbany @ Nov 2 2004, 05:17 PM)
wanted & tried config -
PC (DNS & default gateway 192.168.0.50) ---->--->---- AP (AP mode) ---->---->--- Repeater antenna (two clients, a&b, are pointing at Repeater) ---->--->--->

a ---->-----> Antenna ---->-----> AP (infastructure mode) ---->--->--- ADSL router 192.168.0.50 ------>------>-- PC(DNS & default gateway 192.168.0.50).

please help me set this up so i can get it working

A closer approximation is you want to swap the roll of the sites between PC(a) and PC no ID.
Or PC(a) AP needs to be in AP mode and 1st line PC (no ID) site needs to be in infrastructure mode.
gullalbany
first point - yes you are correct. i want to swap the roll of pc "a" and pc "no name".

2nd point - no this does not work. i tested it with pc "no name" in AP mode and pc "a" in station infastructure mode and no success.

note: station "a" & "b" are both directional attennas pointing at "no name" which is a repeater. So basically "no name" is the middle link. We have a "line of site" wireless network.
gullalbany
should they all be in AP Bridge-Point to Multi-Point mode?
serialmonkey
You cannot place a router behind a unit in station-infrastructure mode. Station-infrastructure mode is only built to have a single PC device sitting behind it.

If you just put all your devices in WDS mode with the correct WDS AP listings then you should be fine.

S.
gullalbany
do i put the all three AP mac addresses in the spaces provided in the same order on all AP's?
Or do i only put the AP's mac address that are only visible to that ip?
and do i put its own mac address in the listind?
gullalbany
i have played around and have had pc "no name", "a" & "b"
all in wds mode however as soon as i put them in wds mode, they dissapear from the "active clients" list. I have tried a variety of mac address combos in the list below that appears when you go to WDS mode.
serialmonkey
MNWAPB's in WDS mode will not appear as "clients" in the client listing like in station-infrastructure mode due to the fact that they are working as a bridge instead of server-client.

If you have 3 AP's in WDS mode then you need to enter into each AP the other two AP's MAC addresses.

i.e. In MNWAPB 1's configuration you need to set it to WDS and enter in the MAC addresses of MNWAPB 2 and MNWAPB 3. In MNWAPB 2's configuration you need MNWAPB 1's address and MNWAPB 3's, etc, etc.

MAC address can be found on the System Status page for each unit.

S.
gullalbany
for example on my pc at AP "b", what should my gateway and primary/secondary dns be set at?
should they be my router ip address or should i have my ISP dns server in there? because it still is not working.
gullalbany
Sorry about that last post. i dont know what i was smoking cause it doesnt make sense at all.
Can you just run through some more settings for me to double check because it still is not working.
do i have to use my isp dns at all? or do i just put my router ip in gateway and primary dns?
i set it up like you said but still no net.
should i have dhcp dissabled on my router? is there anything else i should have disabled/enabled?
i have reset my router to factory default. it is logged in and working on its pc.
serialmonkey
Correct, all DNS and Gateway settings should be set to your router.

Are you able to ping the router from the clients but not ping through to router to an Internet ip address (like 139.130.4.5 for example).

S.
gullalbany
correct.
i cannot ping internet through router, however i can ping the router.
but only on the remote pc's.
i can do both on the local pc.
serialmonkey
Internet Gateway definatly doesn't have any sort of MAC filtering enabled ?? What model/make is it ? (if you havn't mentioned that already - can't spot it)

S.
Dicko
Have a look at the thread I started on using a WAP. In the end I had two WAP in WDC mode but I could not get the desktop PC to access the net using a network card, so I ended up getting a minitar wireless network card and it came up straight away so I ended up with two computers using wireless cards through the WAP in WDC mode with the second WAP in my house in WDC mode connected to an ethernet port on my Billion 7500. I put individual IPs on all of the network cards and put the mac addresses of the network cards into the mintars and the mac filtering on my Billion





Dicko
dna0xff
Ok, so I have been thinking about your setup here, it's a little confusing with the way you have drawn the diagrams but all the information is there :)

Your wireless connection ( now pick my bad drawing!!) is:


node (a) <------> (node no-name) <--------> node (B)

The initial config had the Internet connection at node (no-name) and worked Ok for all connected clients.

The desired configuration is to move Internet connection to node (a) and use 192.168.0.0 as the segment address, with the Address of the router being 192.168.0.50

From your diagram it is unclear how you have the AP, PC and Router connected at node (a), The AP has a single network port, so do you have:

The AP, router and PC all connected via a hub or switch or
The Router has multiple interfaces with the AP on one and the PC on the other or
Is the PC dual homed and the router is in one port and the AP in the other?

in pictures:

CODE
 node (a) AP |-----+ H
 PC  |-------------+ U
 DSL router |------+ B


or

node (a) AP |------------| (eth0) DSL router (eth1) |--------| PC

or

node (a) AP |-----------| (eth0) PC (eth1) |-----------| DSL router


My guess is that your lack of Internet connectivity is probably related to not having IP forwarding on the PC rather than anything to do with the wireless network set up. If you can ping between the machines then it means that in the local network you have connectivity, having the default route set to the (assumed dual homed) PC would get packets to that machine but if it is not configured to forward the packets then they just get quietly dropped.
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