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maccas
Just wanted to confirm that this is correct.

I have the MNWAPB and have just bought the new Minitar Wireless G access point (one with the single removeable antenna & 4 ports). Now I want to use my old MNWAPB to connect my XBOX to the new AP. Do I choose Station Infastructure mode and then connect the ethernet cable between wireless and Xbox.

Also I was running WPA securtiy on the AP, but the MNWAPB doesnt support this, so does that mean I have to run WEP security instead?
screwball
Use Point to Point mode on the MNWAPB and setup the MNWAPGR in WDS.

Then plug into the MNWAPB's ethernet into the XBOX

This should get the two units talking.

Make sure that if you use DHCP, that it is being assigned from the MNWAPGR. Otherwise the XBOX will not be able to connect to the net correctly.

And yes the MNWAPB only supports WEP so you will need to use WEP.

SB
maccas
Thanks for your help, but im stuck smile.gif

Ok my layout is as follows

Adsl Modem -> MNWAPGR

PC WiFI -> MNWAPGR

Xbox -> MNWAPB -> MNWAPGR

As you can see I want to be able to get the Xbox and Pc accessing the Internet through the DSL modem. I have the PC working fine etc but cannot get the MNWAPGR & MNWAPB talking.

I have enabled WDS on MNWAPGR which is also doing the DHCP. I have factory Reset the MNWAPB (using 2.53) and enabled AP Bridge Point To Point. Connected it to my Xbox which is set to obtain IP automatically. When I boot the Xbox I get 0.0.0.0 IP and cannot see the MNWAPB showing in the clients list on the MNWAPGR.

Do you need to specify the MAC addresses when enabling P2P bridging on the MNWAPB ? At the moment I have left everything 'as is' on the MNWAPB apart from swapping its Mode over.

Thanks for your help, this is drivin me nuts tongue.gif
screwball
You will need to tell the MNWAPB the MNWAPGR's MAC address to make the connection.

Also make sure both are in the same subnet.

Enable the setup at first without any WEP, this also may help.

SB
maccas
Forgive me screwball, but I must be stupid as I am having many problems sad.gif.

Firstly I will try and show the layout.

ADSL Modem = Speedtouch 510 .. IP 10.0.0.138/255.0.0.0
MNWAPGR IP 192.168.0.254/255.255.255.0 (DHCP Enabled).

DSL Modem ------> MNWAPGR .......... PC WiFi Card.

............................MNWAPB----X Over---->Xbox

** The MNWAPB should connect wirelessly to MNWAPGR

---> = Normal Ethernet
..... = Wireless

MNWAPB IP setup as 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 (also tried 192.168.0.254).

Now I can get my PC working fine, the MNWAPGR is giving my WIFI card an IP address and I can browse fine through my DSL. At this time I have not enabled any security.

I have tried both Station Infrastructure Modem and Bridge Point to Point. Neither got the xbox online and it never got assigned an IP address.

When I activated Station Infastructure mode I was able to connect the MNWAPB to MNWAPGR (I could see its MAC address when I started Survey). However as the MNWAPB and MNWAPGR both had the same ESSID my PC kept connecting to the strongest signal which was always the MNWAPB (its closer). I was still getting DHCP from MNWAPGR but it was going via the MNWAPB but I could not browse or access the MNWAPGR. However the Xbox never got an IP assiged via the CrossOver.

When I activated Bridge Point to Point I did this.
1..While in AP modem I set the ESSID to the same as MNWAPGR.
2..Changed the Modem to Bridge Point to Point.
3..Set the MAC addy of the MNWAPGR (it has both a LAN and WAN mac, I have tried both).

However the xbox never showed online and I could not see the MNWAPB in the clients list on MNWAPGR.

Can you see what I am doing wrong?
screwball
Do you have the ability to connect your pc to the MNWAPB and then test the link that way. Basically plug your pc into the LAN on the MNWAPB and then disable your PC's link to the MNWAPGR (this means you should route from the AP to the Router) and once you have setup this correctly, the XBOX should work.

Also attempt the WDS mode with the MNWAPB... this too should work.

SB
maccas
hmm.

I still cannot get any data flow between the MNWAPB & MNWAPGR. I have tried connecting the MNWAPB to my PC's Lan, Disable WIFI and connect to the access point.

I have the ESSID the Same on both (maccas).

I have enabled WDS on the MNWAPGR and entered the MNWAPB's Mac.

I have tried the MNWAPB in Station Infastructure, Surveyed, and Connected to MNWAPGR. I can see the MAC addys on the MNWAPGR in the MNWAPB main page. However I cannot ping the MNWAPGR IP.

The IP Specifed for the MNWAPGR is 192.168.0.254 and the MNWAPB is 192.168.0.2.
I have the NIC on my PC setup with the IP 192.168.0.1, all use the same subnet of 255.255.255.0 & there is no securty enabled.

Question: Do I need to setup the Gateway on the MNWAPB to the IP of the MNWAPGR. Do I also need to setup the Gateway on the PC's NIC to either the MNWAPB or MNWAPGR. I am pretty sure I have tried all combos, im begining to loose track of what I have done....

After reading the various modes the MNWAPB can run in, Station Infastructure sounds like the most suitable. I still want the MNWAPGR to operate as a normal AP with my PC etc, I just want my old MNWAPB to act as a virtual WIFI card for my Xbox so it can get online.

One thing that is really annoying the crap out of me is no matter which mode I run in, as soon as a I have the MNWAPB and MNWAPGR turned on my PC's WiFi is always connecting to the MNWAPB, everytime therefore stopping it from using the Net.

When in Station Infastructure mode why would the MNWAPB allow my PC's Wifi card to connect to it? I dont want to connect the pc to the MNWAPB as I want the extra speed coming from the MNWAPGR.

I about to hurl the MNWAPB into a wall is really annoying the !@#$ outta me.
maccas
Ok, I have managed to get a little further...

I have both AP's running in WDS mode, and now I can ping both AP's fine via the wireless. So we have some communiation however I am still connecting via the MNWAPB and being limited to a 11Mbit connection which isnt ideal (it give the best signal strength of the two).

However via the Xover cable between PC and MNWAPB it isn't getting DHCP where the wireless is. If I specify the settings as found on the wireless card I can only ping the MNWAPB but not the MNWAPGR.
serialmonkey
Hi there.

To stop yourself associating to the MNWAPB enable the MAC filtering and enter in no addresses - this will ensure that no "clients" will associate to MNWAPB.

What firmware are you running on the MNWAPB, the latest ?

S.
maccas
Got it working .. removed post.
serialmonkey
Glad to hear it. What ended up working for you ?

S.
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